Werewolves, Vampires, Elves oh my!

[AlaniaRosewood]

lol then I take that part of my statement back, I apologize for that haven't met that many fellow hunters.... Well then her point would be valid with if hypothetically vampires were real didn't feel bad for killing it depends on the ethical out looks of the one doing the killing, we are trying to lump complex litertary creatures into an incomplex gropup which I relize we cannot do. Peoples opinions vary so we can never be sure who is correct in this case I will say that it depends on the individual whether they feel bad or not

[ferox1012]

Good evening ladies and gentlemen[smile].
I hunt, trap, and fish allllllllllll the time for my meat, but then, it's easy for me as I live in the[ever dwindling? ]country.
I decide for myself who is good and evil, who's life is worthless or has value, based upon how an individual makes me feel.
Too subjective? Only for everyone...ELSE, but if I was a man-eating monster, then it would only be my judgement of a potential victim that mattered[unless I had a mate or family of baby monsters to support, heh, heh.]. It seems that there are as many types of Vampires and Vampire-like monsters in folklore as there are species of birds in the Americas, but in all of my reading of them through the years, one thing about almost all of them that seems constant is their lack of empathy/sympathy for their victims, so the whole concept of moral dilemmas probably isn't even something that real vampires would be bothered by.

If you happen to know any personally that could offer me some insight into this matter then please feel free to invite them here to set me straight, dear lady[in order to avoid public observation they could always personal message me through you, if you/they wish.].
I am always interested and happy to learn new things from those who are different than myself.

Oh, and TheMagickSprite is a man. 

[Medicinefox]

First off Sprite is a "He" not a "She" or that is what "His" family says and I have heard "His" voice  and I have seen the hairy arms in pics "He" posted here.

Ok and next persay Born Vampire do not know the human morality of killing as all they know is instinct and what and how they were raised. Example: a wolf cub in a pack learns from siblings and other pack members and knows no difference in their actions.  One made a vampire after they have aged a bit may or should know right from wrong but the draw and hunger will cause them to be less controlled and may even be more vicious with remorse to follow or they may completely loose their minds and be nothing but a killing machine as their minds may snap from the change and duress of their actions. There has been known cases of humans that once they killed found they liked it and continued until caught or killed themselves.


Love,
Fox

[TheMagickSprite]

but do you actually go out into the woods with a gun and shoot down some animal that you eat? Unless you are one of the very small percentage of people that do

I do, and I am.   I do not walk into a grocery store and thumb my nose at the paltry conditions in slaughterhouses, what I hunt, I eat.  Maybe you could learn a few things from that.

An 8pt I took on November 27.  Half eaten, half frozen.  Sustenance.  From the wild.



You were saying?

BB Sprite

lol then I take that part of my statement back, I apologize for that haven't met that many fellow hunters.

PS> LOL? you say.  You really think its funny to assume so much?  Your words before thinking were quite rude madam.  You should stop assumptions before they get the best of you.

[Medicinefox]

There are many more of us than you think, we are not as small percentage as you might think. I do not condone trophy hunting as there are those that do not eat what they kill but if they will at least take out the kill and give it to those that will eat it the better, IMO as to someone that kills for horn or hide and leaves the meat.

There are many that are at least some degree self sufficient with providing food for their families and themselves like hunting, trapping, gardening,drying, canning and freezing foods, raising rabbits and chickens etc. That is life for many especially with this economy there are even more than was a few years ago.
Love,
Fox

[AlaniaRosewood]

I apologize to MagickSprite, and where I live there is a very small percentage of hunters, I myself prefer to hunt but many of the people I knows opinions differ a great deal from mine, I'm not a big fan of the meat they sell in grocery stores, I actually apologize to all of you I meant no offense, opinions vary as does wisdom and I did not know that there were that many hunters out there, I wished I lived in the country so that I could hunt more offten. Oh nice kill MagickSprite by the way. 

[TheMagickSprite]

Thank you, I appreciate it.  In the future, try not to assume before you speak, for it may very well be your small percentage (raises hand), you are referring to.

BB Sprite

[Ken Ra]

Depending on where you live hunting is common or nearly nonexistent. I grew up in the California Bay area hunters were very rare. I now live in Minneapolis and they are all over.

Philosophical musing.

I decide for myself who is good and evil, who's life is worthless or has value, based upon how an individual makes me feel.

   

This is true for all of us except those who believe as they were told.   

I think it is necessary to have good criteria for these decisions.
Some of us have them others are looking. 

Those who do not care irritate me.

[AlaniaRosewood]

I try not to assume anyway and this is another instance that proves that assuming literrally does make an as* of u and me but in this case me but yeah. What kind of animals besides deer do you hunt? And do you use a bow? a gun? I'm just curious I prefer bows myself.

And I do think that myself but then I think about it more and unless the person is causing justifyable harm who are we to look at their past and decide whether or not what they did makes them evil or not? Worthy of living or not? I know I've done things in my past that I don't want others to judge as I'm sure many of us have. If you get what I'm saying.

[Ken Ra]

unless the person is causing justifyable harm who are we to look at their past and decide whether or not what they did makes them evil or not? Worthy of living or not?

Are you sure you meant this?  justifyable

If a person IS harming others someone needs to look at them and decide if they are a danger to US ALL.

If no one judges them then any crime at all is OK.  Would you want your enemies to be free to do whatever they wanted to you?

[xXuglywolfXx]

The deer picture kinda freaked me out...don't get me wrong, my whole family hunts and I LOOOOOOOOVE fresh deer...me and my dad normally make burgers or jerkey (it's so good)...but the eyes are creepy...with the light reflecting and all...i dunno....ignore me and go back to debating, or arguing...i wasn't quite sure what was going on =P

[AlaniaRosewood]

lol. And yeah I meant something different but I've lost my train of thought I really should go catch that. Oh and xXuglywolfXx I like you signature

[ferox1012]

Good evening[smile].
One could say that the look of the stag's eyes is the result of the Lord of the Hunt/Horned God looking back out at you.
I always pray for the souls of my victims, be they BlueGills or Boars.

[LupusStormDancer]

I still don't agree Alania.  If I had to kill humans to eat, I would kill humans to eat, I wouldn't feel bad about it.  I would do what I had to do to survive. We kill cows, pigs, chickens, deer, fish and the like all the time.  I'm not vegetarian nor vegan.  I don't feel bad about it.  We kill to eat.  If I could only eat human blood, I would not feel bad about it... I would just hunger for it (literally) and it would come naturally.

My hypothesis holds just as much water as yours does, because... neither of us has any proof... there are no real vampires.  But perhaps mine even holds more water as I have all the carnivorous and omnivorous animals on my side as backup to my assumptions    They kill to eat, and don't feel bad about it.

BB Sprite

I soo agree it's the nature of things if it's in their nature to feed off of humans that that's they're are meant to do just like wolves are meant to hunt and kill prey. It's the natural order of things you can't change that.

[Gaiano]

My opinions on Vampires

The Vampire is a beautiful work of literature that has existed for hundreds of years and is based on thousands of myths and legends that people of actually believe. Now, with works of art like Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles and other works of....something...like Twilight so many people glorify the vampire. It's a symbol for what all young people want: power, intelligence, and sex appeal. This causes so many young men and women to pretend or persuade themselves that they are actual vampires and live quote 'vampire lifestyles'. The youth will do this for attention and to attempt to satisfy their craving for acceptance among a community. I have encountered a fellow who is my age who believes he is a vampire has had almost tried to persuade me to join his creepy little 'coven'. He insisted every culture had their own version of the vampire. This is not true. Some historians will look at ancient monsters and demons simply pick out the tiny connections from each one and throw the label VAMPIRE on it. They only look for what they want to see. I love the vampire, I have studied them to death (he he) and I love to write short stories about vampires (hopefully I can sit my butt down a finally write a vampire novel, but I'm only fifteen so there is plenty of time). The Vampire is gorgeous invention, it represents what most of us want yet we can't have. It is the dreamer's demon and angel, but too many people look upon it the wrong way. They actually try to be the vampire and live in a life where they fill in every personal desire because that's what a vampire does.