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« on: June 16, 2011, 09:03:32 PM »

I am very interested in learning about, and later on practicing Necromancy. I realize the inherent danger of this, but I am willing to take all the necessary time to learn everything there is to know. If there is anyone skilled in this field or anyone who can point me in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated.   
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 08:16:51 AM »

that is just a realy bad idea Sad
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 05:06:24 PM »

Necromancy is high magic. Not for amateurs or weekend mystics or "Ocultists". The dedication needed is absolute, and you will be unable to perform said ritual if you expect to gain what most people often desire with it, your desires must be elevated and alaways aimed to the exaltation of yourself and mankind, else it will be extremly dificult, dangerous and unfulfilling. Even so it takes a decade or so (though i can't confirm this for sure) of study to even begin, in other words, it's a long way. The energies involved do severe physical harm if the rituals are performed often, but still damage you even if they are done rarely. From external soruces i can especulate they might make you go insane even, if you push it too much. Furthermore there are simpler methods of divination that, if perhaps not that effective, should do for somone who is asking for advise in an internet forum.

For reference i recomend Eliphas Levi's Dogma et Ritual of High magic, ritual, chapter XIII.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 06:47:02 PM »

Good evening[smile].
Um,...just so we all understand one another, what is your definition of the kind of "Necromancy" that you wish to be involved with, Disciple?
And if you are aware of the hazards connected with this practice, then, whyyyyyyy do you wish to pursue this? I cannot help you with this, I am merely curious.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 08:13:45 PM »

There is a lot of risk in doing this from what I heard and it is something that takes years so why do you want to study this path? This is something that you have to be absolutely sure about. Not many people practice this and no one I know even touches upon. What started your interest if I may ask.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 07:37:39 PM »

The reasoning for my interest in this, started just like a lot of people on here. For as long as I can remember, the dead have spoken to me. In dreams, and even When I wasn't dreaming. Another reason this has gotten my attention, is because it takes so much time. I can pick up a pack of tarot cards and go right away. Hell, there are apps for that, but not for Necromancy. Something that takes so long to master, something that so few people have, must hold so much untouched information. That's it really, I have only good intentions.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 07:52:54 PM »

There is no evidence the spirits descend from the higher spheres to answer the call of the necromancer. And that's only for thouse who reciently died, the rest have reincarnated, and can't therefore be called. What necromancy does is recover the "print" of the person you "summon" from the memory of nature (wich i belive to be the memory of Gaia, the earth). It's a way of divination, and not a way to speak with the dead. That latter is imposible as far as i know. As for you speaking with the dead, you could pick up their energy or "prints" if they are reciently deceaced and interpret them as the real person, wich makes you a psychic, or maybe you're speaking with demons or elementals, wich makes you a medium. If the people you mean are VERY reciently departed though, it is theorically posible. You should also consider posible schizophrenia though, just in case. (and take no offence at that.)
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 11:02:23 PM »

The reasoning for my interest in this, started just like a lot of people on here. For as long as I can remember, the dead have spoken to me. In dreams, and even When I wasn't dreaming. Another reason this has gotten my attention, is because it takes so much time. I can pick up a pack of tarot cards and go right away. Hell, there are apps for that, but not for Necromancy. Something that takes so long to master, something that so few people have, must hold so much untouched information. That's it really, I have only good intentions.

If dead people are already speaking to you without Necromancy, then I think perhaps you'd be better off developing your psychic and/or empathic abilities rather than learning Necromancy. It's possible that you are a medium and that, with training, you could be more in control of your contact with spirits.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 01:08:41 AM »

The Black One guarantees one thing, my friend. Death.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 01:41:09 AM »

Sounds like you should be looking into Spiritualism rather than Necromancy to me......
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 01:58:34 AM »

Sounds like you should be looking into Spiritualism rather than Necromancy to me......

I agree. I just get a bad vibe from Necromancy. Spiritualism is what you're aiming for. Necromancy may grab attention that you don't want aimed at you.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 12:37:18 PM »

As everyone has advised, banging on the doors of the deceased is nothing to be taken lightly, particularly because its about as safe as walking through a city blindfolded and knocking on doors, not knowing who will answer or how they will react, and expecting them to be ready and willing to cooperate with you - only worse. Those who are no longer living are very often less than satisfied with their current existence, having recently passed on, and the likelihood of provoking a malicious or wrathful response is as easy as offending someone because you looked at them.

The "information" you seem to believe to be held by the deceased is on par with the type of information you could receive from a living person, only with them having little to gain or lose by aiding you or withholding anything from you - this is similar to asking a stranger to share their secrets or knowledge with you. Its a very complicated process of energy training, enlightening self-education, understanding, and diplomacy. Otherwise all you'd be doing is stepping on the toes of the dead, and the horrors you stand to bring upon yourself are virtually unimaginable. Would you be able to retain your sanity if you were haunted in your dreams every time you went to sleep, suffering heart-stopping nightmares to the point of waking from the terror, short of breath, heart pounding, feeling practically half dead already?

Its not a whimsical practice, nor should it be assumed to be a be-all and end-all, or superior to other practices. Some of the simplest practices are some of the most rewarding. If you desire information, you should focus more on what type of information and how one would obtain it - as the saying goes, "where there is a will, there is a way". Meditation, communicating with your spirit guides / higher self, visualization, remote viewing, and astral projection are but a few practices which could yield more than sufficient information in various fields. It all depends on what you're looking for.

So, in closing, I ask you to try understand that Necromancy is "unpopular" because it is extremely risky, extremely difficult, and only as reliable as your source(s). There are many simpler, less dangerous, and fulfilling methods of acquiring the information you seek. Smiley

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 07:21:51 PM »

Well, I'm most certainly going to take all of your advice, and quit before I kill myself. Thank you all for the help.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 04:35:39 PM »

It's worth pointing out that necromancy by definition is simply divination through means of contacting the dead. Thus, mediums, spiritualists and channellers that commune with the deceased are in all technicality practicing necromancy. The concept of necromancy as something abhorrent, dark and evil is largely a product of mass media, fiction and video games.

That said, necromancy, whether it be channelling, mediumship or whatever other terminology you wish to apply does carry risks. At the end of the day, the spirits of the deceased are still people, and are still subject to the various faults and foibles of the living. Death makes no promises to make someone more noble and altruistic then they were when they were alive. Spirits you contact may take umbrage to being summoned, lie, omit the truth or just be a plain nuisance.

If necromancy/mediumship does interest you, it may be best to stick to ancestors or people you once knew. They're probably more inclined to help/listen to you. Learn how to protect and shield your mind first as well.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 04:46:05 PM »

I dont think you should quit just wait and get more experience and knowledge before attempting it besides here are much more dangerous forms of magick
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